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    Since 25.11 no ICMP Rule works

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    • tinfoilmattT Offline
      tinfoilmatt LAYER 8
      last edited by

      When you screencap your ruleset, try not to leave your cursor hovering over any other interface 'tab' so it's clear which interface's ruleset is being captured.

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      • stephenw10S Offline
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
        last edited by

        What was the advanced setting you had on that rule?

        It pretty much has to be not loaded or not matching. And it looks like it much match.

        Try running: pfctl -vvsr | grep -a3 kuma to see what's actually running.

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          Uglybrian
          last edited by

          Would this be related? The 2aee is the wifi subnet. 9dfa is a i phone. This seems to happen randomly.
          I will be looking into @4294967295 latter today. I have never seen that in the log before.

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            sysadminfromhell @stephenw10
            last edited by

            @stephenw10 said in Since 25.11 no ICMP Rule works:

            Try running: pfctl -vvsr | grep -a3 kuma to see what's actually running.

            Here you go:

            pfctl -vvsr | grep -a3 kuma
            [ Source Nodes: 0 Limit: 0 NAT/RDR: 0 Route: 0 ]
            [ Inserted: uid 0 pid 0 State Creations: 0 ]
            [ Last Active Time: N/A ]
            @985 pass in log quick on ixl1 inet from 172.16.24.98 to any flags S/SA keep state (if-bound) label "id=1755082217" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=Allow kuma everything" ridentifier 1755082217
            [ Evaluations: 71613 Packets: 19683 Bytes: 10902490 States: 16 ]
            [ Source Nodes: 0 Limit: 0 NAT/RDR: 0 Route: 0 ]
            [ Inserted: uid 0 pid 0 State Creations: 644 ]

            The option were "old" and not really used anymore. Somehow we still had them. So we removed them now. It was the IP Option and the any tcp flag opption. AS I said this was working until the upgrade.

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            • tinfoilmattT Offline
              tinfoilmatt LAYER 8 @sysadminfromhell
              last edited by

              @sysadminfromhell Show your Floating ruleset.

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              • S Offline
                sysadminfromhell @tinfoilmatt
                last edited by

                @tinfoilmatt the roating rule-set:

                ####################################

                Floating rules defined by the user

                ####################################
                match quick inet proto icmp from any to any ridentifier 1679838905 label "id=1679838905" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=Bufferbloat Ping Solution ICMP"
                match quick inet6 proto ipv6-icmp from any to any ridentifier 1679838905 label "id=1679838905" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=Bufferbloat Ping Solution ICMP"
                match quick inet proto { tcp udp } from any to any port 7 ridentifier 1683452703 label "id=1683452703" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=Bufferbloat Ping Solution TCP/UDP"
                match quick inet6 proto { tcp udp } from any to any port 7 ridentifier 1683452703 label "id=1683452703" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=Bufferbloat Ping Solution TCP/UDP"
                match out on { pppoe0 } inet proto tcp from any to any ridentifier 1756761745 flags A/A dnqueue( 1,7) label "id=1756761745" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=qACK"
                match out on { pppoe0 } inet6 proto tcp from any to any ridentifier 1756761745 flags A/A dnqueue( 1,7) label "id=1756761745" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=qACK"
                match in on { pppoe0 } inet proto tcp from any to any ridentifier 1756761784 flags A/A dnqueue( 7,1) label "id=1756761784" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=qACK INCOMMING"
                match in on { pppoe0 } inet6 proto tcp from any to any ridentifier 1756761784 flags A/A dnqueue( 7,1) label "id=1756761784" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=qACK INCOMMING"
                match out on { pppoe0 } inet proto { tcp udp } from any to any port $MSTeams ridentifier 1702552225 dnqueue( 2,8) label "id=1702552225" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=Priorize MSTeanms qVOIP Outgoing"
                match out on { pppoe0 } inet6 proto { tcp udp } from any to any port $MSTeams ridentifier 1702552225 dnqueue( 2,8) label "id=1702552225" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=Priorize MSTeanms qVOIP Outgoing"
                match in on { pppoe0 } inet proto { tcp udp } from any to any port $MSTeams ridentifier 1756761028 dnqueue( 8,2) label "id=1756761028" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=Priorize MSTeanms qVOIP INCOMMING"
                match in on { pppoe0 } inet6 proto { tcp udp } from any to any port $MSTeams ridentifier 1756761028 dnqueue( 8,2) label "id=1756761028" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=Priorize MSTeanms qVOIP INCOMMING"
                match out on { pppoe0 } inet proto { tcp udp } from any to any tos 0x04 ridentifier 1716901067 dnqueue( 2,8) label "id=1716901067" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=DiffServe TOS 0x04 (lowdelay) Outgoing"
                match out on { pppoe0 } inet6 proto { tcp udp } from any to any tos 0x04 ridentifier 1716901067 dnqueue( 2,8) label "id=1716901067" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=DiffServe TOS 0x04 (lowdelay) Outgoing"
                match in on { pppoe0 } inet proto { tcp udp } from any to any tos 0x04 ridentifier 1756760777 dnqueue( 8,2) label "id=1756760777" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=DiffServe TOS 0x04 (lowdelay) INCOMMING"
                match in on { pppoe0 } inet6 proto { tcp udp } from any to any tos 0x04 ridentifier 1756760777 dnqueue( 8,2) label "id=1756760777" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=DiffServe TOS 0x04 (lowdelay) INCOMMING"
                match out on { pppoe0 } inet proto { tcp udp } from any to any tos 0x02 ridentifier 1716901115 dnqueue( 2,8) label "id=1716901115" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=DiffServe TOS 0x02 (throughput) Outgoing"
                match out on { pppoe0 } inet6 proto { tcp udp } from any to any tos 0x02 ridentifier 1716901115 dnqueue( 2,8) label "id=1716901115" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=DiffServe TOS 0x02 (throughput) Outgoing"
                match in on { pppoe0 } inet proto { tcp udp } from any to any tos 0x02 ridentifier 1756760815 dnqueue( 8,2) label "id=1756760815" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=DiffServe TOS 0x02 (throughput) INCOMMING"
                match in on { pppoe0 } inet6 proto { tcp udp } from any to any tos 0x02 ridentifier 1756760815 dnqueue( 8,2) label "id=1756760815" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=DiffServe TOS 0x02 (throughput) INCOMMING"
                match out on { pppoe0 } inet proto { tcp udp } from any to any tos 0x01 ridentifier 1716901129 dnqueue( 2,8) label "id=1716901129" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=DiffServe TOS 0x01 (reliability) Outgoing"
                match out on { pppoe0 } inet6 proto { tcp udp } from any to any tos 0x01 ridentifier 1716901129 dnqueue( 2,8) label "id=1716901129" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=DiffServe TOS 0x01 (reliability) Outgoing"
                match in on { pppoe0 } inet proto { tcp udp } from any to any tos 0x01 ridentifier 1756760924 dnqueue( 8,2) label "id=1756760924" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=DiffServe TOS 0x01 (reliability) INCOMMING"
                match in on { pppoe0 } inet6 proto { tcp udp } from any to any tos 0x01 ridentifier 1756760924 dnqueue( 8,2) label "id=1756760924" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=DiffServe TOS 0x01 (reliability) INCOMMING"
                match out on { pppoe0 } inet proto { tcp udp } from any to any tos EF ridentifier 1716900070 dnqueue( 2,8) label "id=1716900070" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=DiffServe EF Outgoing"
                match out on { pppoe0 } inet6 proto { tcp udp } from any to any tos EF ridentifier 1716900070 dnqueue( 2,8) label "id=1716900070" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=DiffServe EF Outgoing"
                match in on { pppoe0 } inet proto { tcp udp } from any to any tos EF ridentifier 1756760997 dnqueue( 8,2) label "id=1756760997" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=DiffServe EF INCOMMING"
                match in on { pppoe0 } inet6 proto { tcp udp } from any to any tos EF ridentifier 1756760997 dnqueue( 8,2) label "id=1756760997" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=DiffServe EF INCOMMING"
                match out on { pppoe0 } inet proto { tcp udp } from any to any tos af21 ridentifier 1756807341 dnqueue( 2,8) label "id=1756807341" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=DiffServe AF21 Outgoing"
                match out on { pppoe0 } inet6 proto { tcp udp } from any to any tos af21 ridentifier 1756807341 dnqueue( 2,8) label "id=1756807341" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=DiffServe AF21 Outgoing"
                match in on { pppoe0 } inet proto { tcp udp } from any to any tos af21 ridentifier 1756807354 dnqueue( 8,2) label "id=1756807354" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=DiffServe AF21 INCOMMING"
                match in on { pppoe0 } inet6 proto { tcp udp } from any to any tos af21 ridentifier 1756807354 dnqueue( 8,2) label "id=1756807354" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=DiffServe AF21 INCOMMING"
                match out on { pppoe0 } inet proto { tcp udp } from any to any tos af31 ridentifier 1716900289 dnqueue( 2,8) label "id=1716900289" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=DiffServe AF31 Outgoing"
                match out on { pppoe0 } inet6 proto { tcp udp } from any to any tos af31 ridentifier 1716900289 dnqueue( 2,8) label "id=1716900289" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=DiffServe AF31 Outgoing"
                match in on { pppoe0 } inet proto { tcp udp } from any to any tos af31 ridentifier 1756761168 dnqueue( 8,2) label "id=1756761168" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=DiffServe AF31 INCOMMING"
                match in on { pppoe0 } inet6 proto { tcp udp } from any to any tos af31 ridentifier 1756761168 dnqueue( 8,2) label "id=1756761168" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=DiffServe AF31 INCOMMING"
                match out on { pppoe0 } inet proto { tcp udp } from any to any tos af41 ridentifier 1756807307 dnqueue( 2,8) label "id=1756807307" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=DiffServe AF41 Outgoing"
                match out on { pppoe0 } inet6 proto { tcp udp } from any to any tos af41 ridentifier 1756807307 dnqueue( 2,8) label "id=1756807307" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=DiffServe AF41 Outgoing"
                match in on { pppoe0 } inet proto { tcp udp } from any to any tos af41 ridentifier 1756807321 dnqueue( 8,2) label "id=1756807321" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=DiffServe AF41 INCOMMING"
                match in on { pppoe0 } inet6 proto { tcp udp } from any to any tos af41 ridentifier 1756807321 dnqueue( 8,2) label "id=1756807321" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=DiffServe AF41 INCOMMING"
                match out on { pppoe0 } inet proto { tcp udp } from any to any tos cs5 ridentifier 1756792676 dnqueue( 2,8) label "id=1756792676" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=DiffServe CS5 Outgoing"
                match out on { pppoe0 } inet6 proto { tcp udp } from any to any tos cs5 ridentifier 1756792676 dnqueue( 2,8) label "id=1756792676" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=DiffServe CS5 Outgoing"
                match in on { pppoe0 } inet proto { tcp udp } from any to any tos cs5 ridentifier 1756792702 dnqueue( 8,2) label "id=1756792702" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=DiffServe CS5 INCOMMING"
                match in on { pppoe0 } inet6 proto { tcp udp } from any to any tos cs5 ridentifier 1756792702 dnqueue( 8,2) label "id=1756792702" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=DiffServe CS5 INCOMMING"
                match out on { pppoe0 } inet proto { tcp udp } from any to any tos cs7 ridentifier 1756807179 dnqueue( 2,8) label "id=1756807179" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=DiffServe CS7 Outgoing"
                match out on { pppoe0 } inet6 proto { tcp udp } from any to any tos cs7 ridentifier 1756807179 dnqueue( 2,8) label "id=1756807179" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=DiffServe CS7 Outgoing"
                match in on { pppoe0 } inet proto { tcp udp } from any to any tos cs7 ridentifier 1756807199 dnqueue( 8,2) label "id=1756807199" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=DiffServe CS7 INCOMMING"
                match in on { pppoe0 } inet6 proto { tcp udp } from any to any tos cs7 ridentifier 1756807199 dnqueue( 8,2) label "id=1756807199" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=DiffServe CS7 INCOMMING"
                match out on { pppoe0 } inet proto { tcp udp } from any to any port $Teamspeak3 ridentifier 1702552121 dnqueue( 2,8) label "id=1702552121" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=m_Other TeamSpeak-3 outbound"
                match out on { pppoe0 } inet6 proto { tcp udp } from any to any port $Teamspeak3 ridentifier 1702552121 dnqueue( 2,8) label "id=1702552121" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=m_Other TeamSpeak-3 outbound"
                match in on { pppoe0 } inet proto { tcp udp } from any to any port $Teamspeak3 ridentifier 1756761611 dnqueue( 8,2) label "id=1756761611" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=m_Other TeamSpeak-3 INCOMMING"
                match in on { pppoe0 } inet6 proto { tcp udp } from any to any port $Teamspeak3 ridentifier 1756761611 dnqueue( 8,2) label "id=1756761611" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=m_Other TeamSpeak-3 INCOMMING"
                match out on { pppoe0 } inet proto tcp from any to any port 6462 >< 6473 ridentifier 1756807838 flags S/SA dnqueue( 2,8) label "id=1756807838" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=Priorize Discord qVOIP Outgoing"
                match out on { pppoe0 } inet6 proto tcp from any to any port 6462 >< 6473 ridentifier 1756807838 flags S/SA dnqueue( 2,8) label "id=1756807838" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=Priorize Discord qVOIP Outgoing"
                match in on { pppoe0 } inet proto tcp from any to any port 6462 >< 6473 ridentifier 1756807863 flags S/SA dnqueue( 8,2) label "id=1756807863" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=Priorize Discord qVOIP Incomming"
                match in on { pppoe0 } inet6 proto tcp from any to any port 6462 >< 6473 ridentifier 1756807863 flags S/SA dnqueue( 8,2) label "id=1756807863" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=Priorize Discord qVOIP Incomming"
                match out on { pppoe0 } inet proto udp from any to any port >= 50000 ridentifier 1756807762 dnqueue( 2,8) label "id=1756807762" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=Priorize Discord qVOIP Outgoing"
                match out on { pppoe0 } inet6 proto udp from any to any port >= 50000 ridentifier 1756807762 dnqueue( 2,8) label "id=1756807762" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=Priorize Discord qVOIP Outgoing"
                match in on { pppoe0 } inet proto udp from any to any port >= 50000 ridentifier 1756807794 dnqueue( 8,2) label "id=1756807794" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=Priorize Discord qVOIP Incomming"
                match in on { pppoe0 } inet6 proto udp from any to any port >= 50000 ridentifier 1756807794 dnqueue( 8,2) label "id=1756807794" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=Priorize Discord qVOIP Incomming"
                match out on { pppoe0 } inet proto { tcp udp } from any to any port $Gaming_Ports ridentifier 1702552087 dnqueue( 3,9) label "id=1702552087" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=m_Game outbound"
                match out on { pppoe0 } inet6 proto { tcp udp } from any to any port $Gaming_Ports ridentifier 1702552087 dnqueue( 3,9) label "id=1702552087" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=m_Game outbound"
                match in on { pppoe0 } inet proto { tcp udp } from any to any port $Gaming_Ports ridentifier 1756761826 dnqueue( 9,3) label "id=1756761826" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=m_Game INCOMMING"
                match in on { pppoe0 } inet6 proto { tcp udp } from any to any port $Gaming_Ports ridentifier 1756761826 dnqueue( 9,3) label "id=1756761826" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=m_Game INCOMMING"
                match out on { pppoe0 } inet proto { tcp udp } from any to any port 53 ridentifier 1702552137 dnqueue( 4,10) label "id=1702552137" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=m_Other DNS outbound"
                match out on { pppoe0 } inet6 proto { tcp udp } from any to any port 53 ridentifier 1702552137 dnqueue( 4,10) label "id=1702552137" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=m_Other DNS outbound"
                match in on { pppoe0 } inet proto { tcp udp } from any to any port 53 ridentifier 1756762514 dnqueue( 10,4) label "id=1756762514" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=m_Other DNS INCOMMING"
                match in on { pppoe0 } inet6 proto { tcp udp } from any to any port 53 ridentifier 1756762514 dnqueue( 10,4) label "id=1756762514" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=m_Other DNS INCOMMING"
                match out on { pppoe0 } inet proto tcp from any to any port 80 ridentifier 1702552128 flags any dnqueue( 4,10) label "id=1702552128" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=m_Other HTTP outbound"
                match out on { pppoe0 } inet6 proto tcp from any to any port 80 ridentifier 1702552128 flags any dnqueue( 4,10) label "id=1702552128" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=m_Other HTTP outbound"
                match in on { pppoe0 } inet proto tcp from any to any port 80 ridentifier 1756762281 flags any dnqueue( 10,4) label "id=1756762281" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=m_Other HTTP INCOMMING"
                match in on { pppoe0 } inet6 proto tcp from any to any port 80 ridentifier 1756762281 flags any dnqueue( 10,4) label "id=1756762281" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=m_Other HTTP INCOMMING"
                match out on { pppoe0 } inet proto tcp from any to any port 443 ridentifier 1702552129 flags any dnqueue( 4,10) label "id=1702552129" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=m_Other HTTPS outbound"
                match out on { pppoe0 } inet6 proto tcp from any to any port 443 ridentifier 1702552129 flags any dnqueue( 4,10) label "id=1702552129" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=m_Other HTTPS outbound"
                match in on { pppoe0 } inet proto tcp from any to any port 443 ridentifier 1756762317 flags any dnqueue( 10,4) label "id=1756762317" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=m_Other HTTPS INCOMMING"
                match in on { pppoe0 } inet6 proto tcp from any to any port 443 ridentifier 1756762317 flags any dnqueue( 10,4) label "id=1756762317" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=m_Other HTTPS INCOMMING"
                match out on { pppoe0 } inet proto tcp from any to any port 6880 >< 7000 ridentifier 1702552130 flags S/SA dnqueue( 6,12) label "id=1702552130" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=m_Other Battle.NET-Downloader outbound"
                match out on { pppoe0 } inet6 proto tcp from any to any port 6880 >< 7000 ridentifier 1702552130 flags S/SA dnqueue( 6,12) label "id=1702552130" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=m_Other Battle.NET-Downloader outbound"
                match in on { pppoe0 } inet proto tcp from any to any port 6880 >< 7000 ridentifier 1756762431 flags S/SA dnqueue( 12,6) label "id=1756762431" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=m_Other Battle.NET-Downloader INCOMMING"
                match in on { pppoe0 } inet6 proto tcp from any to any port 6880 >< 7000 ridentifier 1756762431 flags S/SA dnqueue( 12,6) label "id=1756762431" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=m_Other Battle.NET-Downloader INCOMMING"
                match out on { pppoe0 } inet from any to any ridentifier 1702552963 dnqueue( 5,11) label "id=1702552963" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=WAN qDefault Outgoing"
                match out on { pppoe0 } inet6 from any to any ridentifier 1702552963 dnqueue( 5,11) label "id=1702552963" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=WAN qDefault Outgoing"
                match in on { pppoe0 } inet from any to any ridentifier 1702552985 dnqueue( 11,5) label "id=1702552985" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=WAN qDefault Incomming"
                match in on { pppoe0 } inet6 from any to any ridentifier 1702552985 dnqueue( 11,5) label "id=1702552985" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=WAN qDefault Incomming"

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                • tinfoilmattT Offline
                  tinfoilmatt LAYER 8 @sysadminfromhell
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                  @sysadminfromhell I stopped reading at the "Bufferbloat Ping Solution" stuff.

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                  • jimpJ Offline
                    jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                    last edited by

                    The behavior of match action floating rules with quick set changed in 25.11, and may be the source of your problems:

                    https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/16475

                    The quick part was effectively ignored in the past, now it isn't.

                    Now it hits those match rules and then stops processing so it never gets to a pass rule.

                    Take quick off of those floating match rules and they will likely start working as you expect.

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                    • stephenw10S Offline
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by

                      @sysadminfromhell said in Since 25.11 no ICMP Rule works:

                      match quick inet proto icmp from any to any ridentifier 1679838905 label "id=1679838905" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=Bufferbloat Ping Solution ICMP"
                      match quick inet6 proto ipv6-icmp from any to any ridentifier 1679838905 label "id=1679838905" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=Bufferbloat Ping Solution ICMP"
                      match quick inet proto { tcp udp } from any to any port 7 ridentifier 1683452703 label "id=1683452703" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=Bufferbloat Ping Solution TCP/UDP"
                      match quick inet6 proto { tcp udp } from any to any port 7 ridentifier 1683452703 label "id=1683452703" label "tags=user_rule" label "descr=Bufferbloat Ping Solution TCP/UDP"

                      Yup, that. match quick is almost certainly the problem there.

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                        sysadminfromhell @stephenw10
                        last edited by

                        @stephenw10 Yep that fixed it

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