block rules not logging
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@johnpoz No rules are logging. I'm quite sure these counters are fresh. There's nothing prior blocking this traffic (including floating rules). The traffic is getting blocked, that's not what I'm worried about - it's just that the logs aren't getting generated.
For context, this is a Netgate 4200 with a PCIe SSD - I did a fresh install of pfSense+ onto the SSD as soon as I received the firewall in January, but after updating to 25.07 there was no firewall logging, period. There were some old logs that could be read, but after I cleared the logs in an attempt to resuscitate logging functionality they've been blank ever since. Just "no logs to display."
I actually have a number of machines I take care of (this is a home router, but I have a number of campus routers) that have failed to log firewall-blocked packets since they were updated to 25.07.1. I'm baffled as to why as none of their logging-related or firewall configurations have changed.
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@beatvjiking Show the interface of these 'problematic' rules, and your floating ruleset.
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@beatvjiking so nothing is logging, like system or unbound, nothing - or just the firewall log? Its just blank?
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@johnpoz just the firewall log. Services log perfectly fine, it's just the firewall log that's blank. Here's the logging config:
@tinfoilmatt it's the LAN interface, the only other rules on it are the anti-lockout and a default allow. Like I said before, there are no floating rules.
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@beatvjiking So just to be clear—you have no floating rules whatsoever? How many interfaces total?
You could also try checking the
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@tinfoilmatt this machine just has WAN and LAN. It's a very basic home router setup. There are no floating rules whatsoever. I did have some before, and those didn't generate any logs either.
To be very clear, this is not an issue of the firewall rules behaving unexpectedly. Traffic is blocked or allowed exactly as expected. It's just not logging the things I tell it to log. I hit a block rule, the packet doesn't pass, the counter goes up, but nothing goes in the log. That's all.
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Yeah turning on default log should show us that stuff is being logged, since your wan for sure would see bunch of noise that should be blocked by the default deny.
Are you running IDS that could be blocking..
I do not log default deny, but I have many specific rules for logging, and they are all logging just fine.
Might also want to look at the actual rule - does it show logging set? What does the rule say when you, is log set in the rule?
cat /tmp/rules.debug
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@beatvjiking said in block rules not logging:
It's just not logging the things I tell it to log.
This is not a thing. So you're asking for assistance with your own misconfiguration. Take any suggestions offered for what they're worth in that regard.
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@johnpoz No IDS. I don't normally log default deny either, having turned it on for testing it's also not logging anything. /tmp/rules.debug: rules.debug.txt
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@johnpoz I also have many rules for logging on a lot of machines, and a lot stopped with 25.07 or 25.07.1. This machine is just the one with the simplest configuration so I figured I'd start here looking for the problem, but couldn't find anything, hence posting here. /var/log/filter.log is blank, but I don't know for sure if that's actually where pfSense pulls the data from when it comes to firewall logs.
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@beatvjiking If default deny logging isn't working.. Something wrong with log file.. You said you reset them?
Are you doing something with ram drives?
Do you see log entries in the specific file, you should have a /var/log/filter.log
If you do a cat of that file you should see all kinds of stuff in there
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@beatvjiking said in block rules not logging:
/var/log/filter.log is blank, but I don't know for sure if that's actually where pfSense pulls the data from
It is. That's what the GUI displays.
ls -alh /var/logoutput would be helpful. -
I reset the firewall log a while back to see if maybe there was something wrong with the file causing it not to parse or something like that, but after resetting it never repopulated. The file size is 0. No RAM drives in play.
/var/log contents:
total 2.0 MB drwxr-xr-x 5 root wheel 57B Dec 24 08:08 . drwxr-xr-x 28 root wheel 28B Feb 25 2025 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 9.9K Dec 18 22:53 apcupsd.events -rw------- 1 root wheel 28K Dec 24 09:11 auth.log -rw------- 1 root wheel 197K Dec 24 09:14 dhcpd.log -rw------- 1 root wheel 499K Dec 1 18:12 dhcpd.log.0 -rw------- 1 root wheel 499K Oct 5 09:08 dhcpd.log.1 -rw------- 1 root wheel 499K Aug 6 16:46 dhcpd.log.2 -rw------- 1 root wheel 499K Jun 8 2025 dhcpd.log.3 -rw------- 1 root wheel 499K Apr 10 2025 dhcpd.log.4 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 12K Dec 12 20:13 dmesg.boot -rw------- 1 root wheel 0B Dec 12 20:13 filter.log -rw------- 1 root wheel 9.3K Dec 12 20:14 gateways.log -rw------- 1 root wheel 343K Dec 24 10:02 ipsec.log -rw------- 1 root wheel 502K Dec 24 08:08 ipsec.log.0 -rw------- 1 root wheel 500K Dec 24 05:29 ipsec.log.1 -rw------- 1 root wheel 501K Dec 24 02:45 ipsec.log.2 -rw------- 1 root wheel 502K Dec 23 23:59 ipsec.log.3 -rw------- 1 root wheel 501K Dec 23 21:17 ipsec.log.4 -rw------- 1 root wheel 501K Dec 23 18:52 ipsec.log.5 -rw------- 1 root wheel 500K Dec 23 17:13 ipsec.log.6 -rw------- 1 root wheel 0B Dec 12 20:13 l2tps.log -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 0B Feb 10 2025 lastlog drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 3B Feb 10 2025 nginx -rw------- 1 root wheel 88K Dec 24 09:31 nginx.log -rw------- 1 root wheel 502K Dec 20 16:47 nginx.log.0 -rw------- 1 root wheel 510K Dec 11 23:39 nginx.log.1 -rw------- 1 root wheel 513K Dec 11 23:17 nginx.log.2 -rw------- 1 root wheel 512K Dec 11 22:55 nginx.log.3 -rw------- 1 root wheel 508K Dec 11 22:33 nginx.log.4 -rw------- 1 root wheel 520K Dec 11 22:11 nginx.log.5 -rw------- 1 root wheel 522K Dec 8 17:49 nginx.log.6 drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 2B Feb 10 2025 ntp -rw------- 1 root wheel 49K Dec 24 00:22 ntpd.log -rw------- 1 root wheel 0B Dec 12 20:13 openvpn.log -rw------- 1 root wheel 0B Dec 12 20:13 pfnet-controller.log -rw------- 1 root wheel 0B Dec 12 20:13 poes.log -rw------- 1 root wheel 0B Dec 12 20:13 portalauth.log -rw------- 1 root wheel 0B Dec 12 20:13 ppp.log -rw------- 1 root wheel 236K Dec 24 09:21 resolver.log -rw------- 1 root wheel 505K Feb 27 2025 resolver.log.0 -rw------- 1 root wheel 0B Dec 12 20:13 routing.log drwx------ 3 root wheel 4B Aug 14 23:34 suricata -rw------- 1 root wheel 319K Dec 24 09:31 system.log -rw------- 1 root wheel 500K Oct 31 01:02 system.log.0 -rw------- 1 root wheel 519K Aug 4 23:46 system.log.1 -rw------- 1 root wheel 499K May 28 2025 system.log.2 -rw------- 1 root wheel 500K Mar 16 2025 system.log.3 -rw------- 1 root wheel 499K Feb 27 2025 system.log.4 -rw------- 1 root wheel 499K Feb 24 2025 system.log.5 -rw------- 1 root wheel 499K Feb 21 2025 system.log.6 -rw------- 1 root wheel 22K Dec 12 20:14 userlog -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 197B Dec 24 09:11 utx.lastlogin -rw------- 1 root wheel 1.2K Dec 24 09:11 utx.log -rw------- 1 root wheel 0B Dec 12 20:13 vpn.log -rw------- 1 root wheel 0B Dec 12 20:13 watchdogd.log -rw------- 1 root wheel 0B Dec 12 20:13 wireless.log -
@beatvjiking have you tried rebooting?
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@SteveITS Yes, this has persisted across reboots, and releases now.
Looking across the affected machines, I'm seeing that none of them have logged anything in their firewall logs since mid-September, and that corresponded to deploying the latest Netgate-supplied System Patches package and applying the recommended patches within. At this point all the machines have been updated to 25.11 so I'm not sure exactly what version that was or what patches it contained at the time. The machines are also now running the Patches package 2.2.26 with all recommended patches installed (and absolutely no non-Netgate patches, I deploy these only for the official bugfixes/security fixes from Netgate).
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@beatvjiking so this is happening on multiple routers?
I would try deleting that filter.log file. Then maybe a filter reload.
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@SteveITS yes, it's happening on multiple routers, but I decided to try to work on this one since it appears to be a shared issue and this one is my home device, so I can mess with it and not cause problems for my clients.
I deleted the filter.log file and reloaded filter, and the file hasn't been re-created.
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@beatvjiking Try the red "Reset Log Files" button at
Status / System Logs / Settings.Failing that, post a screencap of your "Log Rotation Options". Maybe that whole settings page actually.
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@tinfoilmatt Resetting the logs re-created the file. Interestingly the permissions are different from what they were before - :
old: -rw------- 1 root wheel 0B Dec 12 20:13 filter.log new: -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 0B Dec 24 10:54 filter.logIt's still not populating with any logs.
Screenshot (again, logging default deny is just for testing here):
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@beatvjiking Check the "
Default firewall "pass" rules" checkbox just to see if you can get anything to log.You're squarely in sketchy territory.
